Studying the synastry, that
is the comparative and integrated interpretation of two or more radix, is a widespread
techinque among astrologers. Not only it makes clear if a couple work, but also the
parent-child relationship, or between two friends, partners and even between an employee
and the firm he works for, or between a workman and the device he operates.
This work roughly shows the
working of the Hriffith-Banderas relationship, so toreveal how to manage this
technique. Although taken by a reliable data source, these radix are only an example, and
becausethis study does not aim to an exhaustive analysis of them, they are not rectified.
Radix of Antonio
Banderas, born in Malaga on August 10th 1960 at 21.00 (source Grazia Bordoni)
and of Melanie Griffithborn in New York on August 9th 1957 at 23.49 (source
Starting with a look at the
prominence or lack of elements, quadruplicity and triplicity in every radix is always
advisable, through an energetic budget so to integrate them later. The following is a
summary of this analysis.
Mrs Griffith is all fire and earth, this combination indicates that she is
able to realize and to be concrete
She lacks of air and water, which makes it harder for her to communicate in a
deep and personal way and, most of all, to show her feelings. Despite of it, she can
manage this lack through the Moon, the highest planet and in a air sign, regent of III
He is fire, water and earth, but the air is the lacking element of this
radix, but Mars in Gemini in III, sextile to Mercury, balances it
Mrs Griffith lives the water through him, who has Asc in Fish and whose
master, also in a water sign, gives a nice trine
The fixed quadruplicity, highly emphasized in her chart (Sun, Moon,
Asc in a fix sign and a planet concentration in V) balances Antonios excessive
inconstancy, who finds Melanie a reliable stand.
He is the one who makes
this couple cardinal, being more daring and being newly successful.
Melanie, in turns,
usually supports every effort Antonio is unable to cope with, being too changeable.
II- The structure
The zodiacal contact shows the energetic level of the relationship,
whereas therealization of projects always refers to the domifications level. This is
why the world of relationships is always expressed through the houses of air: III, VII,
In her relationships, she
always tries to express her feelings (houses III and VII in water signs), and obviously
always looks for a deep and changing relationship (VII in Scorpio). In a group she is
friendly, the Moon in Aquarius makes her very popular among her friends, but they are
people she knows rather than close friends.
In his relationships, he
looks for perfection (VII in Virgo with Pluto, an angular planet!). For this he is able to
die and being born again.
A new tension is shown
between the two radix: the presence of Scorpio elements in VII indicates that each one
feels like the other one wants to be dominant and, simultaneously, they are mutually
III. The Gestalt.
Astrology allows us to a
different look to the radix: to see its structure, its shape, conceived as a whole. In
this system we can include the lack and the over-abundance of aspects, trees of half
points, configurations and the so-called planetary patterns (1) developed
by Marc E. Jones(2) first and by Robert C. Jansky (3) then.
Antonio has an expanding
radix, which means he is a person whose life
is full of interests, and whose attitude toward different and changeabe situations is
Although these kinds of
expanding radix lack of conjunctions, in the Banderas one it is the other way round:
there are two conjunctions (Sun-Uranus and Venus-Pluto) but no opposition.
On the contrary, Melanie has a
concentration pattern: all the planets in the radix are within the area of a trine,
except for the Moon, which should be the handle planet of the pattern Jansky
Her interests are concentrated
inside the area IV-V-VII, with five planets in V. She is pragmatic and objective. The Moon
is the focal planet through which she looks for resources aimed to her fulfillment: the
House X, the job. The opposition of the Moon to PM Sun/Uranus (Moon=Sun/Uranus) makes her
excitable, impulsive, and individualist.
Despite he is changeable and
easily fits every situation, Antonio has no opposition in his radix, which indicates
hes not effective in his relationships, for the other one cannot see
Melanie is fully concentrated
on herself (she has three conjunctions and the synthetic sign is Taurus) and
she is tenacious and even stubborn.
IV- Contacts between planets
In every synastry we have to observe the connection
between the more involved planets in the relationship field, that is the personal ones. It
is certainly well shown by ASC and MC.
going to make a summary of the most significant connections:
Moon closes a Big Trine with Melanies Saturn Uranus. First he feels sure for
the responsible role Melanie has in the relationship, though sometimes he finds his
wifes emotional reply cool. Sometimes this frustrates him for he cannot trespass
this Saturnian barrier. On the other hand Uranus influence can fascinate
Antonios Moon first, but its erratic and unforseenable move can hurt the Moon
accidentally. Briefly, this is a breaking contact.
are in sextile: This contact can make the former contact and also indicates an
identity of feelings, helps the mutual trust and the emotional interdipendence.
Moon opposites Antonios Sun: They attract each other and exchange feelings.
He has the Sun, which means he has no need to dominate by his aims. She has her Moon
opposite to her Sun, and this inner lack of balance is enfroced by Antonios Sun.
The Suns are
conjoint. There is a combination of impulses and creative inclinations, they can
understand and deeply know each other, but competition can arise between them, too. This
can be avoided by using positively the harmony between their Moons, but the opposition of
her Moon to Antonios Sun is always an unbalancing factor.
Mercury sextile to Melanies Jupiter: This is positive. It indicates mutual
inspiration. She cheers Antonios mind up, and can be understanding and tolerating
toward his ideas.
Mercury square to Melanies Neptune: Despite of the positive connection with
Jupiter, Melanies Neptune shows secrets she doesnt tell him. Mercury is first
enchanted, but is disappointed then.
Venus conjoint to Melanie's Mars: This is a clear connection of a strong mutual
attraction. She, offering her Mars, permanently stimulates Venus, though she can be a
little possessive. Venus, in turn, has a calming effect on Mars. This is always a positive
contact for couples. In this case the sexual link is absolutely plutonian: he has Venus
conj. Pluto, and she has Mars conj. Pluto.
Venus square to Melanies Saturn: Venus so much stimulated by the contact
with Mars, now facing Saturn, feels sad, depressed, with too many duties, criticized and
submissive to its many request. Sometimes this contact indicates loyalty and a long
lasting relationship, according to the other elements accompayning it. In this case,
although Venus is helped by Mars only, it has to cope with Neptune and Pluto, as mentioned
Venus sextile to Melanies Neptune: This is a contact of generosity,
sympathy, love. There are common artistical interests, most of all Neptune can give Venus
inspiration. But is this Neptune able to be faithful?
Venus conjoint to Melanies Pluto: The relationship is very deep. The person
having Pluto is jelaous, absorbing, and even dominating. For Venus it is a hard try, most
of all of a big changing, which is just what Antonio looks for in close relationships,
having Pluto in VII.
in square: There is a conflict in their wishes and in their will, and a tendency
to stop each other. All considered, it always indicates a big annoyance.
Mars trine to Melanies Jupiter and in opposition to her Saturn: Thereis an
oscillation between Jupiter stimulus and saturnian limits, which always brings to
frustration in the end. It can act as a guide to Mars, but in this case the square to
Melanies Mars, as we saw before, shows a mutual fight to impose ones own will.
Mars sextile toMelanies Uranus and square to her Pluto: Once again the
stimulus the sextile to Uranus can give is stopped by a fight for the power which will
floor Pluto. It is stronger by Melanies Mars in conjuntion to Antonios
shortness sake, we stop here. Although there are many other contacts which are worth
an analysis, we considered the most important ones, that is the ones involving personal
planets and mostly Venus and Mars. Here is a summary from what we have seen up to now.
is fickle and idealist (synthetic sign Sagittarius). He has many interests, is sensitive
·He is not too
talkative, but likes to carry on polemics (Mars in Gemini in III discharges a square on
the I/VII axis, involving Pluto)
opposition in the radix, relationships is something Antonio worries about a priori, but
when he has one he can dedicate his life to it.
practical and steady, is able to stand whatever undertaking firmly (synthetic sign
concentrated and stubborn. For her expressing her feelings is not easy.
Moon opposite to Antonios Sun-Uranus conjunction is a separating aspect.
personal planets have more contact with Melanies slow ones than the other way round.
This indicates that it is him to make more adjustments, being his Mars and Venus the most
·They feel a
strong attraction bothsexual and of wishes, being both strong plutonian persons, with a
high energetic charge mutually stimulating, althoughshe is more pragmatic and demanding
and knows well what she wants, whereas he is more idealist, as we said before.
·They are both
highly individualist (Sun-Uranus in Leo). If solar objectives are not fulfilled, Uranus
will always threaten a break. With so much individualism, how can they take a record of
each other inside themselves?
·There is a big
work of Saturn and Neptune, which maybe one day can spoil such a passion.
Melanies Asc occurring in Antonios VII shows a clear situation of mutual
Antonios Asc is in the sign of Melanies VII, which also indicates attraction.
Melanies VII occurs on Antonios Venus involving his Pluto and her Mars,
showing again a strong and plutonian relationship.
- Compared horoscope
Among the different methods of integrated charts, I chose the so-called
compared one, developed by Alexander Marr.(4)
This scholar tried to find
a common time for the two peopleby calculating a radix based on a converse method. Marr
tested this system on more than 200 radix and proved it is an adequate complement to the
traditional comparison ofthe Charts.
The table of numbers of
days Marr drew up for prenatal transits is the tool we work with. A converse date is found
from the date of birth of the younger partner to the older partners one, and it is
the result to keep. This difference must be taken then from the older partners date.
The procedure is the same for the time of the birth.
This means that the
difference in time existing between their births is measured since the older
partners day of birth.
56.469 = August
10 1954 - GMT 11:38
We calculate the
chart for the place they met for the first time.
The system of composites considers an average space, the Davidson works
on an average time, but Marr created a system using a common moment of time to both of the
couple, and thus it is a converse moment in time, that is measured backward and preceeding
This radix must be analized like all relationship charts, that is like
a ratio. Following, some words about it:
® The Asc,
concerning the direct environment and the way the couple cope with what is around them, is
shown in Cancer with Uranus conj. from the XII. This means that this couple appear to be a
® The MC in
Aries indicates that they want to work as pioneers, with fighting spirit, and that they
always want to excel on the set.
® The Sun
in its domicile and Pluto in Leo too hold the II/VIII axis. Money and sexual relationships
are highly changing and developping areas, maybe the first aim for this couple, as we saw
before. This Sun in throne, from the II makes a trine at MC announcing an obvious economic
® Moon and
Mars conj. to VI indicate fight and discussion for the daily routine (quiconce at Asc,).
On the other hand, being masters of Asc and of MC, they promise much work, like a company
® Venus in
Libra in III shows the kind of artistic expression of the couple, and forms a sextile to
the IIIs regent, which isin I and which announces some difficulty, being the master
® We cannot
forget that the House XII of this chart is Melanies Asc and, like we said before, it
is her to implement projects of the couple through her connections and friends. On the
other hand, the VII of this radix is Melanies MC.
® The VI House
not only talks about privacy of the house and of the couple, but also indicates how things
end up. Neptune and Saturn show lies, disappointment, and maybe sorrow.
Can Melanie and Antonio overcome these obstacles taking strength
from their relationship?
If the excessive selfish individuality of their Suns-Uranus in Leo
excels, for sure they cannot; instead, if they use their uranian imagination positively,
they can give vent to the Leo they have inside through shows and so can make the Leo
magnanimity prevail, everything is possible... they have the last word.
... And the Schiffmann integrated says that...
As we noticed in the former analysis, from an astrological point of
view, this couple appears rather problematic and not in such good terms as they are
gossipped to be.
The Schiffmann integrated chart too (whose method is widely shows in
another article) sets light on conflictual aspects which, in long terms, can compromise
the stability of the couple.
First of all the Chart shows an Asc in Aries, remarking how this
relationship is mainly based on the fight between the partners, expressed in almost
continuous discussions and fights. Their behaviour is mainly harsh, both of them think to
themselves and to affirm their own wishes and needs, regardless of the other ones.
Furthermore a great individualism makes the everyday lifea source of continuous
provocations and hides a great aggressiveness.
Moreover, the Sun, which now is symbolized by Banderas, is in House XI,
so to stress a friendship rather than a strong passional involvment, especially as far as
the Spanish actor is concerned. Anyway the couple share many interests but, despite of it,
each one wants to keep their own freedom. Such a relationship is particularly oriented
toward future: future events and when children are grown up are the main concerns.
Venus position in XII House shows that love often ends up by
being a dream; they think to be in love or are deceived by the others love, for
illusions are often a rule. In most cases the partner is already married or not free
anyway,so it is hard to live this relationship under the sun. It is understood this
position has prevailed during the early times of the rlationship between Antonio and
Melanie who, we recall, were both married when they met.
The Moon too is placed in XII Houseand this position indicates a
removed feeling: maybe one of the two partners doesnt like to show their feeling
because, by doing so, fears to lose the other. This position too remarks the difficulties
at the beginning of the relationship, maybe because they were both married. It also
stresses a kind of fear to be together and a high pshychism linking them. Dishonesty often
shows through this psychism, for they have always something to hide to the other.
Saturn dominates the Chart, often symbolizing people who oppose or at
least restrain the relationship. A hard common life has to be expected because of the
ordinary obstacles the couple meet; the two partners renounce to themselves and show their
loneliness within the relationship. If stubborness is not sufficient but, on the contrary,
the involved ones let events overcome them, then the relationship can hardly survive and
they will definitely split apart.
As far as aspects are concerned, the main ones are:
- SUN CONJOINT MERCURY: it indicates the best availability to dialogue
that each partner offers the other one, daily exchanging their thoughts and chatting of
whatever topic. This lets Antonio and Melanie attain a greater capability di understand
and a better comprehension of the partners personality. The dialogue makes the
relationship brighter and they are aware of their differences which actually form and
complete the couple as a whole. There is a great common intellectual interest: they both
dedicate to the same things, start studies together, or even travel together.
URANUS: This aspect arises serious doubts about the chance the relationship last long
because it is too moved, even though exciting: the couples behaviour is too extreme
and they are unable to deep their mutual experiences. Individualism of one partner is
disturbed by the other ones,inflences negatively the relationship, and makes the
NEPTUNE: It is a very nice aspect because it makes them give the other the best of
themselves, without awaiting on something in change. They infact know that it is spirit
and not sex to keep persons together, and the couple often have common objectives, aiming
their relationship to realize them. Antonio and Melanie are linked by real telepathy and
often have no need to talk to learn what the other needs. Sensitiveness is high and they
keep into great consideration the others needs, ready to help the partner. This is
wonderful between two artists.
PLUTO: This aspect indicates a fertile relationship: a great energy links Antonio and
Melanie and the sexual attraction is also intense and rigenerating. It always indicates a
therapy for both the partners: one makes the other change without any intention. This is
an extremely intense relationship, often determining a dependent feeling, even in a
As we see, whatever technique of synastric analysis cannot leave out of
consideration the Radix Chart first and then the classic Synastry. It is interesting
anyway that, no matter what is the adopted system Synastry, Marrs Integrated
or Schiffmanns similar indicators always convey and can give the astrologer
the chance to indicate the couple their weak and strong points, but also to determine how
long the relationship is likely to last.
(1) Do not confuse the planetary Patterns with the
Planetary Boards (Planetenbildern) used byt the School of Hamburg.
"Guide to Horoscope Interpretation"
"Prediction III" Ed. Sirio, Bs.As. 1986.
(5) Because we are working with GMT, the date shifts to the